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PostSubject: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Fri May 01, 2009 4:20 am

Has anybody heard about this stuff, and what do you think it all means? Can this really be happening???
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Fri May 01, 2009 2:49 pm

Toward the end of the video, it basically shut down my computer, saying Script was too much for Adobe 9 Flashplayer to handle. Did any sort of group sponsor this? And after googling David Icke, this guy seems completely unhinged. Now he is proving that extra-terrestial Reptilian blood lines (including the British royal family) are in control of the world. affraid Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Sat May 02, 2009 5:35 am

Gotta agree that David Icke is certainly reaching for new frontiers, but I also have to say that much of what we considered science fiction 50 years ago is today science fact. I try to keep that in mind when I weigh the validity of anyone's assertions or speculative analysis. Often you find truth in the strangest of places...

Alex Jones, while often anxious and overly demonstrative has a lot of the puzzle on the table and keeps busy organizing the pieces to find exactly how it all fits together. For me at least, there sure seems to be merit to much of what he espouses. The trick is to rightly fit the pieces together in a logical manner without getting too involved in the emotional aspects of the task.

As I see it, even if only 10-20% of what either of these two fellas are describing turns out to be accurate, it should scare the crap out of any thinking person...

My PC handled the video flawlessly, no problemo.

I have no idea who put the video clip together, I just stumbled onto it and thought it would evoke some thoughtful conversation so I posted it.

As for the Reptilians alien ...well I don't think I'm even ready to consider that possibility, much less discuss it! scratch
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Sat May 02, 2009 3:02 pm

I guess I just had to many cookie crumbs ( Laughing ) in my computer.
Fleshing out my point about the vid is that with TV and the Internet, we are are suffering from informational overload, and one has to start figuring who is who and what is what. What bothers me is that when you quote some professional conspiracy theorist like Icke (who probably makes a great living) as a source, the entire thing loses a bit of credibility. And since there is no individual or group claiming any credit for the video, it makes me a bit suspiscious of the entire thing.
If this was an Alex Jones production, he would have been better off quoting Jerome Corsi (author of Late Great USA) than Icke.
The theme is an old one. Nefarious elite subjugating all population (Orwell's 1984, written in the 1940s is a great example, though Orwell's antagonist was based on Stalin) and social conditioning. There are plenty of different ways to make a point without throwing Hitler in all the time.
Human have always done social conditioning since hunter gatherer days.
While I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but give me some facts, not editorial opinions presented flamboyantly. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Tue May 05, 2009 1:09 pm

You should watch this. It is long but very good. I don't believe all of it naturally, but some of it does make sense, which is scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fchatham%2Dcounty%2Dnc%2Ecom%2Fbulletinboard%2Findex%2Ephp%2Ftopic%2C11920%2E0%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Wed May 27, 2009 11:12 pm

If you Google "who owns the federal reserve " then look up the memberships of the council of foriegn relations and the tri-lateral commission you will find a lot of common names . Looking at past members of these organizations you will find a lot of presidential appointees in very important positions in Govt. past and present . If we can get past the label nonsense that keeps us in Babel and just label ourselves as Americans we will progress with our common ground . All politicians are bought and paid for except maybe Ron Paul and Dennis Kucsinich . They are both Exiled in there parties for sticking up for the Constitution . You don't have to totally agree with either one , But there records show them to be constitutionaly minded . Isn't that what its about at the end of the day , Getting America back to its founding documents ?
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Thu May 28, 2009 1:15 am

Glad you joined us, Tim.
And personally, I would not put anything past the wheels of power--those we don't really read about in the headlines. While I am not into seeing a conspiracy theory around all corners (nor do I even consider lizard-people are running the world), just looking at what mainstream media did to Ron Paul in the debates--they just ignored him until he had to raise his hand to protest the lack of being asked a question or being allowed to answer a question that others had the opportunity to.
I think it all boils down to economics to benefit those with the money to make campaign contributions. We have NAFTA, CAFTA and goodness knows how many more -FTAs, none of which seem to save our jobs, standard of living, monetary value or dignity but the American citizens no longer have a say in anything in government. Citizens cannot afford professional lobbying firms to put a bug in the Congressional ear about what we want; foreign countries and big corporations can get access as they can afford the lobbyists.
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Thu May 28, 2009 4:04 am

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If we can get past the label nonsense that keeps us in Babel and just label ourselves as Americans we will progress with our common ground
Absolutely, positively a bullseye kill shot Tim!

While I pick up a lot of good general info from radio talk show hosts for example, I also see their manipulation and rhetorical marketing of a particular political party. A few are pushing the Democrat agenda, but most are peddling the same old Republican snake oil. The tip-off is in the repetitive attacks on the opposing party, followed immediately with an endorsement of their own party's historical significance or accomplishments. Frankly, I find the marketing insulting.

I haven't forgotten the blunders and arrogance of the Republican Party, nor have I overlooked the Socialist bent of the Leftist Dems. We don't need either of these groups in charge any more, but so long as they are out there roughing each other up like the top two NFL teams on the gridiron it's going to be very, very difficult to get the average American to wave off the drama and see the sad truth behind the showmanship.

After all my friends, it's nothing more than an illusion to keep one entangled in the alleged competitive wrangling while they all go about their dirty deeds off-stage. The real puppet masters have no particular political allegiance, and most of the leadership we see before us are simply cronies jockeying for positions of favor at the feet of the most powerful who ultimately give them their marching orders.
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Thu May 28, 2009 9:17 am

What is really new for me is that in all my life, even when I was active duty Military, I have never cared so much and tried to learn what is going on in politics and government, until the election last year, when I saw through Obama's agenda somehow. Something woke me up. Since then, I haven't been able to stop this feeling of impending doom. It's like I know for certain that something big is going to happen and our world as we know it, will never be the same. Lefties will say I had some kind of mental break, but that isn't true. I function very well in a technical financial role at work, run a small business, and am raising two of my six grandkids.

Statists typically try to discount us by saying were out of our minds. It is very validating to me to see videos like this coming out, because it puts together all the little pieces that I found here and there and a lot of it really makes sense, even the video about 911 being staged by the government makes sense, they have scientific facts!

Last night, my husband and I had our re-evaluation appeal appointment for our property taxes. Chatham county is saying that in 3 years, our property value has gone up $88,000.00 with no improvements. The only thing we did is plant some trees. This is an example of what all Americans are facing. Government has to raise taxes, state, local and Federal. I think a lot of the videos we are seeing lately compare big O to Hitler, because there are so many similarities in his actions/agenda.

I too, in the past have doubted if the videos are real, and lately, I just believe them, because most of them makes sense, and there are a lot of videos by different entities being created. More and more Americans are waking up. It isn't about left or right, it is about our Constitution and taking control of our country as a people. Immigration and big government is going to bankrupt America if we don't stop it soon.
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Fri May 29, 2009 6:23 pm

It does my heart good to know we can find some common ground . Please don't take offense , but I've been praying for the Republicans to wake from there slumber . If it takes a Dem. Pres. to make it happen so be it . The present attack on our Constitution started near as I can tell with Nixon's power grab in 72 . A lot of his increases in power were recsinded in 77 . Then came the war on drugs , read that bill with the bill of rights in mind and a shiver you will surely feel up your spine . The abuses of the executive branch start piling up fast under Clinton and shoot to the moon under Bush . Now comes Obama , a Constitutional Lawyer no less . You would think with a background in Constitutional law he would immediately start abolishing
these attacks on the rights of the people . He's actually increasing the power of the executive branch further . Read hr 1955 , The violent radicalization homegrown terroris bill . Almost every American with a pulse could fall under this . The Patriot act , FISA act , the list ges on and on . Executive orders , North American Union , Military base "Civilian detention/work camps bill 97. I could go on and on with these abominations to the Constitution . Both parties have prposed and voted for these , they are all guilty .
My worry is , Why is the pace picking up ?
What are they hiding ? Heck if the country is broke , Why did they just take the GPS coordinates of my house ? That is a time consuming process , it can't be inexpensive . Lots of questions , and lots of theories . Most are to scary to consider .
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Sat May 30, 2009 3:49 am

You can only imagine how expensive that GPS collection really is, if only in tax dollars. To top that off, I heard a radio ad the other day for district census supervisors, and I don't remember the pay rate but it struck me as rather lucrative for a temporary job. The ad said right now they are just seeking the management personnel, and will be advertising for the foot soldiers later.

Now the question concerning the GPS coordinates really begs an answer as to why, if they can find your home in the first place they need GPS coordinates to locate it to get the census packet to you and then follow-up if you do not respond. There is something much more "complicated" afoot here. There is more than a redistribution of wealth taking place.

As to your curiosity about the quickening pace, I suspect the answer is at least two-fold. One, the Marxist socialization of our democracy will be much more difficult to reverse if they can layer on the elements of their social construct faster than we can identify the elements and resist them. Given the conditioning of the American psyche, it won't take very long before the majority of the people simply feel overwhelmed and incapable of resistance. This in fact is well underway already as a reaction to the previous two years of non-stop campaigning and rhetoric, followed by almost instantaneous reversals of policy and performance following the elections. I hear too often otherwise strong-willed healthy men and women saying they are just "tired of fighting all the time". Think they've been worn down intentionally and conditioned to respond?

The second explanation is even simpler to understand. It's called the New World Order. Democracy in this corner of the Western World has slowed the pace of the timetable for transition to a one-world government. Many areas of the US have fielded some honest politicians who still demonstrated Christian (or at least religious) attitudes and ideals, which made for much slower going down the trail Europe had already traversed.

It took some time to seduce and energize enough of the less astute secular segment of our society to manifest a voting majority and sweep the agents of change into position. Citing Congressional gridlock, and blaming a Republican administration for all the country's woes (in spite of the fact that the more liberal elements of both parties were largely to blame for failing to garner a concensus of reasonable compromise), citizens were gamed into voting based on emotional appeal instead of factual review and analysis. Heck, a third or more of last year's voters didn't have enough thoughtful contemplation to even understand the stated positions of a majority of those they voted for, opting to pull the straight ticket lever.

At any rate, now the stage has been set, and there is not enough political capital in the conservative camp to enable us to side-step the coming disaster.You may have noticed that even when confronted with accusations of the obvious attempts at overthrow of Constitutional governance we as a nation demand, our new leadership blows it off as fallacy and diverts to a new but no less obvious assault. They are not really trying to hide anything, just laughing it off and proceeding down the calculated path to first a North American Union, and shortly thereafter a New World Order.

In case no one is paying attention, Hugo Chavez has the same activity well underway in Venezuela, and is deeply influencing much of South America along the way. We are simply playing catch-up right now my friend, and those in positions of power are determined to bring the deal home. The saddest part of all is that it has gotten very difficult to tell the friendlies from the enemies of the State. The masks are coming off very slowly, but by the time all have been revealed there will be few who still care...

Another troubling fly in the ointment is a recent news leak that advised the military recruiters have been alerted they should prepare to begin functions as area draft boards. I also noticed the government paid ads reminding young men that it is the law to register at age 18 have intensified. Couple this news with the Obama proposed Youth Corp and citizen army and one can easily recognize a clear shift to some sort of militarization underway. Now the questions present themselves, who are we planning to fight, when, where, and why?

As you said, "Lots of questions , and lots of theories . Most are to scary to consider ."
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PostSubject: Re: What's this stuff about a New World Order?   Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:32 am

I just cannot bring myself to blame one party more than the other in this drive towards the new world order . There is a lot of blame to go around . Gramm/Leach/Bliley almost single handedly gave us companies to big and greedy to fail . Gramm followed that up with the stopping of regulating the derivatives market in 99 . Gramm being a Republican and this during a Republican Congress speaks for itself . They are all members of the same cabal , It's time to shed your party alliegence and just consider ourselves as AMERICANS and only AMERICANS . The more you try to point out which party is the bad one the more you lose sight of the deeds of your party of choice . Lets please start seeing all and I mean all the guilty poloticians as what they are UNAMERICAN according to the Constitution .
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